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Tue Apr 12 2016, 02:22
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Have made a few changes to the system now halves are 7 minutes each. rather than goalkeepers getting points on whether or not they keep a clean sheet (which doesn't really prove how well they played), they now get points based on how many they concede.


Key:

Goalkeeper/DM -
Clean Sheet = 15xp
1 goal conceded (full match) = 10xp
2 goals conceded (full match) = 5xp
Goal = 5xp
Assist = 4xp


Attacker -
Goal = 5xp
Assist = 4xp



Note: no more xp for clean halves




1.   Màd   Season 4 Top Players Db0f892ced
268
192 minutes, 40 goals, 17 assist

2.  Stefan   Season 4 Top Players Deja
223
236 minutes, 35 goals, 12 assists

3.  mlfaijati   Season 4 Top Players CS
175
224 minutes, 7 clean sheets

4.   Ahmed   Season 4 Top Players Db0f892ced   Season 4 Top Players Deja
155
207 minutes, 2 clean sheets, 12 goals, 10 assists

5.  B4D 4SS   Season 4 Top Players Db0f892ced
153
193 minutes, 21 goals, 12 assists

6.   Yawn   Season 4 Top Players ArsenalFC
133
136 minutes, 15 goals, 7 assists

7. Cazorla Season 4 Top Players ZSXtAJF
118
182 minutes, 18 goals, 7 assists

8.   ogre   Season 4 Top Players JIDCDAV
117
224 minutes, 3 clean sheets, 7 goals, 3 assists

9.  Wildey   Season 4 Top Players ZSXtAJF
112
84 minutes, 20 goals, 3 assists

10. Iceman Season 4 Top Players ZImVb0u
102
160 minutes, 4 clean sheets, 3 assists

11. Mata Season 4 Top Players ZSXtAJF
101
127 minutes, 4 goals, 9 assists, 2 clean sheets

12.  Sebastian   Season 4 Top Players JIDCDAV
100
187 minutes, 16 goals, 5 assists

13.   Chuckdog   Season 4 Top Players ArsenalFC
97
168 minutes, 13 goals, 8 assists

14. Caccapupu Season 4 Top Players ArsenalFC
88
118 minutes, 8 goals, 7 assists

15.  Świeczka   Season 4 Top Players L8_log11
86
158 minutes, 14 goals, 4 assists

16.  luck   Season 4 Top Players Db0f892ced
85
91 minutes, 2 clean sheets, 1 goal, 10 assists

17.  Kamina   Season 4 Top Players L8_log11
84
189 minutes, 9 goals, 6 assists

18.  MrP   Season 4 Top Players 11
75
154 minutes, 15 goals

19.  Giggs   Season 4 Top Players CS
74
125 minutes, 10 goal, 6 assists

20.  A.Tuntija   Season 4 Top Players Db0f892ced
73
70 minutes, 9 goals, 7 assists

21.  Salamini   Season 4 Top Players CS
65
105 minutes, 5 goals, 10 assists

22. Hannes Season 4 Top Players ZImVb0u
61
158 minutes, 8 goals, 4 assists

23.  Rénbeaudach   Season 4 Top Players JIDCDAV
57
63 minutes, 9 goals, 3 assists

24.  Saviola   Season 4 Top Players UIGNKiM
54
136 minutes, 1 clean sheet, 1 goal, 1 assist

25.  Element   Season 4 Top Players CS
54
79 minutes, 10 goals, 1 assist

26.  Zola   Season 4 Top Players 11
49
96 minutes, 2 clean sheets, 1 goal, 1 assist

27. Kirito Season 4 Top Players ZImVb0u
48
77 minutes, 8 goals, 2 assists

28.  aeRo   Season 4 Top Players CS
46
94 minutes, 6 goals, 4 assists

29. Holtby Season 4 Top Players UIGNKiM
44
174 minutes, 4 goals, 1 assist

30.  Programer   Season 4 Top Players ArsenalFC
42
91 minutes, 6 goals, 3 assists

31.  Q   Season 4 Top Players 11
40
163 minutes, 1 clean sheet

32.  Snackbox   Season 4 Top Players L8_log11
38
70 minutes, 4 goals, 2 assists

33.  Diesel   Season 4 Top Players Deja
37
132 minutes, 5 goals, 3 assists

34.  Knucklez   Season 4 Top Players ZImVb0u
37
91 minutes, 5 goals, 3 assists

35.  Hopsin   Season 4 Top Players Db0f892ced   Season 4 Top Players L8_log11
34
154 minutes, 3 goals, 1 assist

36.  Jai   Season 4 Top Players ZSXtAJF
34
138 minutes, 1 assist

37.  Ghost   Season 4 Top Players 11
34
126 minutes, 2 goals, 6 assists

38.  Gado   Season 4 Top Players JIDCDAV
33
84 minutes, 2 assists

39. CHE Season 4 Top Players ArsenalFC
33
68 minutes, 5 goals, 2 assists

40.  Zizou   Season 4 Top Players Deja
32
77 minutes, 1 clean sheet, 3 assists

41. Twigg Season 4 Top Players UIGNKiM
31
166 minutes, 3 goals, 4 assists

42.  The Doctor   Season 4 Top Players Db0f892ced
29
28 minutes, 5 goals, 1 assist

43.  Nub   Season 4 Top Players L8_log11
28
73 minutes, 4 goals, 2 assists

44.  deer94   Season 4 Top Players ArsenalFC
24
50 minutes, 4 goals, 1 assist

45.  Shotstar   Season 4 Top Players 11
23
133 minutes, 3 goals, 2 assists

46.  CM Punk/Gjonaj   Season 4 Top Players ZSXtAJF
22
108 minutes, 2 goals, 3 assists

47.   R2-D2   Season 4 Top Players JIDCDAV
20
56 minutes, 2 goals

48.   Speaks   Season 4 Top Players Deja
20
48 minutes

49.  Fear   Season 4 Top Players ZImVb0u
20
35 minutes, 4 goals

50.  Sugar Ray   Season 4 Top Players UIGNKiM
19
69 minutes, 3 goals, 1 assist

51.  Lloyd BANKS   Season 4 Top Players JIDCDAV
18
84 minutes, 2 goals, 2 assists

52.  Lumi   Season 4 Top Players ZImVb0u
17
49 minutes, 1 goal, 3 assists

53.  Corn   Season 4 Top Players ZImVb0u
15
40 minutes, 3 goals

54.  Jds   Season 4 Top Players UIGNKiM
13
120 minutes, 1 goal, 2 assists

55.  ParanormalActivity   Season 4 Top Players L8_log11
10
56 minutes, 2 goals

56.  Beninho   Season 4 Top Players CS
10
45 minutes, 2 goals

57.  Danny   Season 4 Top Players Deja
10
40 minutes

58.  Swift   Season 4 Top Players UIGNKiM
10
14 minutes, 2 goals

59.  Teraquista   Season 4 Top Players ZImVb0u
9
90 minutes, 1 goal, 1 assist

60. Venom Season 4 Top Players ZSXtAJF
9
44 minutes, 1 goal, 1 assist

61. rpc Season 4 Top Players ZSXtAJF
9
10 minutes, 1 goal, 1 assist

62.  abacus   Season 4 Top Players ArsenalFC
8
41 minutes, 2 assists

63.  Pizzi   Season 4 Top Players Deja
8
14 minutes, 2 assists

64.  Tanzim   Season 4 Top Players ArsenalFC
5
40 minutes, 1 goal

65.  Lee   Season 4 Top Players UIGNKiM
5
35 minutes

66.  Monstah   Season 4 Top Players JIDCDAV
4
16 minutes, 1 assist



Any mistakes let me know


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Tue Apr 12 2016, 09:02
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Nice one Sugar
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Tue Apr 12 2016, 16:39
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u coulda told me this before we conceded that 3rd goal vs arsenal u cheeky beggar




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Tue Apr 12 2016, 17:40
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tfw me and hopsin scored 1 each but still at bottom with ppl who just showed up to matches, rip
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Tue Apr 12 2016, 23:35
@The Doctor wrote:tfw me and hopsin scored 1 each but still at bottom with ppl who just showed up to matches, rip

1 goal in 42 minutes isn't exactly anything to write home about anyway, I mean the top 3 players are all forwards despite the majority of the games being typically low scoring for 7 minute halves, I'd say sugar's done a good job balancing.
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Wed Apr 13 2016, 01:13
1minute im bein told 2 sign extra players so its not 2 small the next minute smaller teams get extra points advantage Mad




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Wed Apr 13 2016, 01:25
1 goal in 14 mins not 42 ren
And iceman, the gk is tied 3rd followed by captain bus mlf. 2 more match days and they'll be on top.

It's balanced if everyone was to play full games, I know, it's just that it might not really represent the "top players" of season 4 that well overall.

As a striker:
Your team could lose 1-0 cus of an owngoal you score and you get 4 xp for playing through that whole loss.
On the other hand, you could play one half like me, score 1 goal and then get subbed. Probably win cus of that goal and you only get 5xp.
See what I mean?

This would add up and eventually the other lad will overtake me if I don't score in the halves I play, even though I'm scoring goals and he is just playing full games.
You can't just right this off as "B4D needs to make you play full games"
This isn't right man.

How r man gonna overtake me by just doing laps on the pitch for 14 mins?

To make it balanced, either reduce the cleansheet contribution or increase the goals xp to 7.
my opinion innit but srs this is a major problem u know, cnt be calling it "top players" and not making it fair for everyone to have a chance

Also ye, how are you gonna reward the gk even though he flopped in getttig a cleansheet.
If teams start to bus more, the score line will become smaller and gk's will just rek everyone in this thing.

Get rid of the 1 and 2 goals conceded xp and increase the cleansheet reward so even if they flop to get a cleansheet, they can recover if they manage to actually get one.

This way it won't encourage teams to bus for individual profits but to actually try to attack more.

Anyways I know I'll be ignored so idk why I take the effort to point this all out tbh
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Wed Apr 13 2016, 01:51
This leaue is competetive now, and bussing is easier said than done now.
I admit the one thing which is debatable is the xp to attackers for 1 goal conceded, 2 goals conceded.
On the other hand, conceding 1 goal in 14 mind in this league now is difficult and why should all the credit go to the goalkeeper when indeed it is 'the bus' that is keeping out the goals.

Also I don't think goals and assists should be anymore than they are now, ye you can say that a player getting 6 or 4 for defencive contribution shouldn't be more that a goal or an assist. but a player can't get any more that that 4 and 6 for defencive work in a game, whereas a striker on his day can score 3-5 goals in one match (seen it happen).

And why is mlf being top a bad thing or shocking? He has only conceded 4 goals in 3 matches (42 minutes of haxball) imagion how many goals you see during that time in pubs. And thats having allready played against teams involving jai, mad, Ahmed, yawn and yourself.




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Wed Apr 13 2016, 08:24
Why do people forget the only points that matter are the 3 points your team gets
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Wed Apr 13 2016, 08:39
wasn't shocked that mlf was at top, jut mentioned it cus ren said top 3 were attackers

bruv I'm gonna be at bottom this season with 40 goals u know peakk
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Wed Apr 13 2016, 10:28
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not like attackers arent getting credit for clean sheets either - id say sugars done a good job




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Wed Apr 13 2016, 10:47
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Soccerettes will get no xp with our rotation.

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@mlfaijati wrote:not like attackers arent getting credit for clean sheets either - id say sugars done a good job
They get credit yes, but only if they play the full game.
All is lost as soon as they are subbed.

This system will favour those teams which do not do rotations, so players at teams like SOCCERRETTES, SHEEPSHAGGERS and FOX HOUND(S) will be at a disadvantage individually. Even though they may do rather well in the season.
The amount of points they will lose because of substitutions will be colossal when added up.

In terms of the balancing, the old system would be perfect if you increased the reward for clean sheets.

The concept of a GK getting a huge amount like 12 XP even though they conceded is a bit unfair.
Regardless of the longer game times, he conceded but is still rewarded?
Scrap that and make the cleansheet xp bigger, like 25.

With this new rule of extra points for full game contributions, you're basically deterring players from doing rotations, so how are we meant to give the newer players game time when it will compromise our very own stats?
Especially the GK.
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Wed Apr 13 2016, 11:33
42 that you could have played but w/e, if you think it's still unfair then ask him to make a list of points/minutes then you'd be higher up

Maybe should add some points for winning a half as a player regardless of position or contributing to a victory too @sugar, since doc did at least make one valid point in his post
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Wed Apr 13 2016, 13:51
Keep it simple then

Goals 5xp
Assists 3xp
CS 15xp
Half CS 5xp

What's all this 1 goal 2 goal malarkey.

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Wed Apr 13 2016, 17:37
tbh its impossible 2 have an accurate system, like u sed cacca cud be man of the match, nd he wud get less points than a gk who kept clean sheet , but was useless at keeping possession. the most accurate way 2 do a points system wud be for the admins to rate in order the 3 most useful players in that match,nd give them points in their order of 1st 2nd 3rd




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Wed Apr 13 2016, 18:17
@Sugar Ray wrote:Keeping a clean sheet is the greatest achievement for a gk, they can't get top scorer of assister so their goal is to get top clean sheets. If cacca plays well and concedes than great he will decent xp but shouldn't get more than the gk who just kept a clean sheet against that team in 1st place. Who cares if he camped and didbt play well he kept a clean sheet and his team took 3 points.

Let's look at how the old system would compare an offencive and defencive gk.
Let's say our offencive gk is cacca and his team win 5-2 and he gets 2 assists, he would get 14xp.
And a gk like maestro gets a clean sheet in a 2-0 win and gets 18xp.
I would say scoring like that is pretty fair as maestro achieves the ultimate goal is keeping a clean sheet while cacca is not too far behind after conceding 2 but playing vital part in attack in securing the win.
Obviously this thing isn't going to be 100% accurate, it's not real life, it's suppose to give an idea of who is playing best and tbf it's better better than the old system in my opinion and others anyway and ofc better than no system at all.
won't this just make teams camp more though?
imo the keeper who came out and was part of the attack deserves more credit and is the better player, as oppose to the GK who just handcuffed himself to the goal post
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@Sugar Ray wrote:If camping wins you games than why not, it's worked for Fox hound.


So stop adding the 1 goal 2 goal malarkey then
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